i kinda understood how to use archer but saber is a real pain to understand.. not to mention gilgamesh currently i'm using gilgamesh by tabitito and saber by Juke kisaragi (dunno if it is on the DB... if you wish i can upload it)
Invisible Air Combo ~Down, Foward, Down, Back, c Excalibur ~Down, Foward, Down, Foward, c Emiya Heper ~Down, Back, Down, Back, z or ~Down, Back, Down, Back, x