New 3D character for mugen... Anubis.

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Date: Wednesday, 2011-12-21, 10:17 PM | Message # 46

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Hey sorry for asking again but are you 'converting' the 3D models to sprite? (because that reduces a lot of size) this post might sound stupid if you're already doing that.

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Date: Wednesday, 2011-12-21, 10:28 PM | Message # 47

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Hey sorry for asking again but are you 'converting' the 3D models to sprite? (because that reduces a lot of size) this post might sound stupid if you're already doing that.

Haha..

Of course I am. Frame by frame. But if the image is big then it takes more memory. If I make the images smaller it takes less space. Such as with Anubis and Izura for a example... I wanted maximum resolution with Izura so re-sizing was out of the question however that made him well over 62 MB. Anubis however WOULD have been over 70MB if I did not resize him. But since my Anubis is Low color it would not effect resolution at all. Anubis, due to me resizing each sprite made him 20 MB less then he would have been. With Savior it has little effect other then making his feet look bad so I am resizing all sprites just as I did with Anubis to make him as less memory as possible. Memory is a issue with my characters for when I do go to upload a full mugen project NO ONE would want to download something more then 9 GB for a game they do not even know is any good.... So, low memory cost is a must for me. I refuse to make any character have over 70 MB. That is my size cap. I do not wish to have a full mugen project game over 2 GB... Even if it costs me characters so be it.. =/ Too much of anything can be a bad thing anyway... Expect a complete Savior later today with full audio.. I had to get a little original with giving him a voice.... >.< I used Kouryu from Last Blade as his voice.... For it seemed to fit right. Ripped the sounds myself... I had no original voice clips.. =( And not using my own voice on Savior. If someone else has a sound board or something to which would sound accurate with a Ethereal Being please if willing to let others use it I would very much need those voices rather then using Kouryu as his voice.. =(

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Date: Thursday, 2011-12-22, 1:06 PM | Message # 48

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And how are you converting it? With the print screen button?

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Date: Thursday, 2011-12-22, 4:33 PM | Message # 49

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And how are you converting it? With the print screen button?

Print Screen? Hahaha... Oh heck no. I literally take each frame from such individually into a PCX image. However due to my program if the image is TOO big it will actually leave such that goes off screen completely out... If you want to know how to make models I can teach. =) It is really easy. Though I would recommend Maya or such due to what I use being rather complicated and a pain in the arse.... Also, even if you can not make a skin mesh but can make a model, you can STILL create a 3D character. Literally! I will explain that later though. It would take me a very long time to detail it here and I am limited with message space... =/ Oh, and I finished Savior just now.., for any who would want to test him.. he is a little bit cheap... but then again he is not a normal character. He rivals my Eternal Champion... >.<

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Date: Thursday, 2011-12-22, 4:57 PM | Message # 50

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Print Screen? Hahaha... Oh heck no.

ever gave it a try? because i use it a lot of times when my avatar's file size is too high to be used in forums. i just prnt screen it and save it as png via paint
btw may i give a try to the char which you just mentioned above please? heres my youtube account link
damn yt changed its design again..

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Date: Thursday, 2011-12-22, 5:18 PM | Message # 51

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ever gave it a try? because i use it a lot of times when my avatar's file size is too high to be used in forums. i just prnt screen it and save it as png via paint

PNG loses color... A LOT of color. Going direct to PCX does not lose so much of the format to which the original image is.. Also I use a special setup that I doubt anyone else uses... The codec I use if I am trying to gather a LARGE group or a single animation into many single frame images I transfer the file into a ZMBV mini porget... It is not well known to many what that is so I will be brief as to which it is... It is like a gif image but whatever I see from if a video or a animation file such as SWF... considering that most people do not even use SWF.... Let alone in mugen. Taking a picture from one file format to another can denote the quality of the picture.. and more so change the color segments so that which was the original pal created for one will not work for the next due to minor changes in said image... The method I use takes a very long time and makes sure that I get the image correctly from my models. Now if I were to be ripping a sprite from a game.. well... then that is different. I use Animation Shop when ripping then convert each frame I want into PCX with the pal I make for the images. PNG has TOO much color loss. And alters the image setup in such a way it is... just very much disliked by me. I personally will never use PNG. I learned the hard way from a LONG ago failures I made Armor King and Batsu... Never again will I do that. But as for my models and or originals I can not use formats that are... common. Need the image to look best quality.

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And sure.. happy

I just need to make his level 3 really fast and fix a few issues. Then uploaded he will be. =) Though, Savior is HIGHLY cheap in a lot of ways... A example is I gave him a EX move to which if your standing... and close... you can not stop it unless you jump at the right moment... It can not be blocked... But it is not TOO cheap.. CAN jump over it... I am currently making him suitable for a human player, I have not even set up the human allocations yet. haha.. Oh, and as for my originals such as Izura, again, I can not use any format other then ZMBV Pogets or PCX. All other formats cause data and color change in the image. If it was a simple 2D image it would be okay.... Not with a image that has more colors then what mugen is supposed to handle. I do hope that makes sense... >.<

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Date: Thursday, 2011-12-22, 8:01 PM | Message # 52

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Oh ok never thought it would make the models loose its color P:

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I use Animation Shop when ripping

Woah that's the exact name of my site surprised

but with .ucoz at the end lol
and btw, thanks for approving my request and np if it is a bit cheap for now, i wanna see how you code the 3D models and how it feels to play with them smile

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 5:25 PM | Message # 53

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Woah that's the exact name of my site surprised surprised but with .ucoz at the end lol
and btw, thanks for approving my request and np if it is a bit cheap for now, i wanna see how you code the 3D models and how it feels to play with them smile

I accidentally fell asleep while working on Savior.. Sorry.. And his level three sucks... I am trying to come up with ideas for the parasite but.. nothing works... It is not meant to go in the body but rather through the body and pull the character back to the original realm. And as for sound... I am altering Christopher Walkin's voice for Savior so he has English sound as well... I just need a wee bit more time.. Then I will give you a large upload... =}

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Oh, I forgot to mention... Savior is a edit.. not a original nor of my sprites... I made sprites for him.. But he is not of my original creation. He used to be Neon by Artisto16. LONG ago, I asked Artisto16 on his site that I do not know if it is still up and running if I could make a edit of his sprites or try to make more of his character and he said sure... At first I could not. "This was way back then before I knew what I was doing." And set the W.I.P aside... I just now went back to it and made more sprites for him. The new sprites made are of a different size. So I had to re-size all the new sprites to lower his MB size. But, oddly enough there was not much of a reason to do so considering there was no cause for me as to which the character has not even hit over 40MB and is done except for a bad A.I that needs to fix. I hurried and made a simplistic A.I.... >.< That will be fixed at a later time... anywho, message me when you want to try him out. You will get to try Originals and a edit to which see how I make my characters. =}

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 5:31 PM | Message # 54

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Hiryo, you take requests for 3D char? i want to know if gildartz will look good in 3D

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 6:11 PM | Message # 55

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Hiryo, you take requests for 3D char? i want to know if gildartz will look good in 3D

Who is Gildartz? @_@ Also, I am working on Sub-Zero currently... If you want me to make a Gildartz I will need to know who he is or she.. What the person looks like. And of the person itself. If it has objects such as a Lightsaber... that will be a issue.. =( Having enough difficulty with Darth Vader and Mara Jade with that... =(

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 6:44 PM | Message # 56

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hey can you give me your yt account name? I searched for hiryo but it said that the user has closed the account
or is it possible for you to pm in this site?

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 8:35 PM | Message # 57

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hey can you give me your yt account name? I searched for hiryo but it said that the user has closed the account
or is it possible for you to pm in this site?

If you went to any of the upload video links I had it would have said my account. Account name is HiryoXeoni . All one word. =) If you search for recent 3D mugen characters my channel pops up. ^^ Thanks also.. I am uploading a new video to show the edit of Neon. "Savior" for mugen... I think people are going to dislike the level three I made for him a lot.. for most will not even understand it.. cry

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Hiryo, you take requests for 3D char? i want to know if gildartz will look good in 3D

I just went to wikipedia to see all results of Gildartz. I think Gildarts Clive is who you speak of.. Has a robotic arm... I think I can make him. cool

I did not get results of Gildartz..... I am not into cartoons so I absolutely know nothing of him. Though, the images look way to similar to a concept I was making.. Just different hair color...... I will put him on my list as a maybe and see if I get time to start making him or not.. >.< All depends if Gildartz is Gildarts Clive. I am unsure. As I mentioned if it is cartoon, I know nothing of it.. Sorry. =/

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Here is a video if the edit "Savior".... I really did not want to make him... =( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQYaCBoFaw

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Date: Friday, 2011-12-23, 9:04 PM | Message # 58

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If you went to any of the upload video links I had it would have said my account.

Oops, oh yea sorry
btw i messaged you in youtube

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Date: Saturday, 2011-12-24, 6:56 AM | Message # 59

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Oops, oh yea sorry
btw i messaged you in youtube

When are you going to download the characters? @_@ And Merry Christmas to you! ^^

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Date: Saturday, 2011-12-24, 8:11 AM | Message # 60

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All depends if Gildartz is Gildarts Clive

yes. sometimes it is spelled gildartz, sometimes gildarts
http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Gildarts_Clive
i can give you videos of his powers smile